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Monday, October 11, 2010

Discussion of Ch. 25 - The Life of Teresa of Jesus - Autobiography of St. Teresa of Avila

  The Life of Holy Mother
        Teresa of Jesus


    The Life of St. Teresa of Jesus,
  of the Order of Our Lady of Carmel.
       Discussion  of  Chapter  25

- Of the manner in which Locutions of God 
    are perceived by the soul 
  without being actually heard; 

- and of some deceits 
   that might take place in this matter, 

- and how one is to know which is which. 
 This is most profitable for those who are 
   in this degree of prayer, 
  because it is very well explained,
   and contains excellent doctrine.

- Divine Locutions. 
- Discussions on That Subject.

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         Topics/ Questions

1). How does St. Teresa describe 
        locutions of God?
       [ Life: Ch25: # 2,5,6,8,9,
                               12,22,23 ]

2) From where can locutions arise?
      [ Life: Ch25: #1,2,3  ]
3). How does St. Teresa describe a
       human or natural  locution?
        [ Life: Ch25: # 3,4,5,6,8,10,11,12  ]


4).  "There is another test 
           more decisive still" for   
           distinguishing between 
          divine locutions and human locutions.
       What does St. Teresa say is this test?
               [ Life: Ch25:  # 5]
5). How does St. Teresa describe a
        locution from satan?
         [ Life: Ch25:  #13,14,15, 17]

6). What encouragement does 
         St. Teresa give regarding
          locutions from satan?
            [ Life: Ch25:  # 16,24,25,26,27 ]

7). What recommendations  
         and precautions does 
        St. Teresa give regarding
         locutions from satan?
            [Life: Ch25:#16,17,18,23,24,26]

8).  According to St. Teresa, 
        If God did "subject those 
         who love (Him) to a severe trial,
        why would this be done?
            [ Life: Ch25:  # 22 ]

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1). How does St. Teresa describe 
        locutions of God?
       [ Life: Ch25: # 2,5,6,8,9,
                               12,22,23 ]

St. Teresa describes locutions of God as:

~ Words or ideas received by the person
      
~  Received supernaturally from God
       
~ Without the use of the sense of hearing
     Not heard by the ears
              "The words... 
                - but by the bodily ear 
                  they are not heard"
                     [ Life: Ch25: # 2]
~ The words/ ideas are heard clearly
              "The words 
               - are very distinctly formed"
                  [ Life: Ch25: # 2]
           "the divine locution is a voice 
           - so clear 
              that not a syllable of its utterance
                    is lost".
               [ Life: Ch25: # 6]
      
           
~ The meaning of the words/ideas 
     are clearly understood
        - "much more clearly understood 
            than they would be 
              if  they were heard by the ear. 
        - It is impossible 
                 not to understand them,
             whatever resistance we may offer".
                     [ Life: Ch25: # 2]

~ Rapid Understanding of
     "the divine locutions 
      - instruct us without loss of time, and 
      - we understand matters 
            which seem to require a month 
                on our part to arrange. 
      - The understanding itself, 
              and the soul, 
          stand amazed at some of the things 
                we understand".
                 [ Life: Ch25: # 12]

  
~ Irresistable:
              "there is no escape, 
                    for in spite of ourselves
               we must listen; 
              the understanding 
                    must apply itself 
               so thoroughly 
                    to the comprehension 
               of that which God wills 
                    we should hear,

               that it is nothing to the purpose 
                    whether we will it or not"; 
                     (whether we want 
                             to hear it or not)
               "for it is His will
                    Who can do all things. 
               We should understand that
                     - His will must be done; and 
                     - He reveals Himself 
                             as our true Lord, 
                          having dominion over us". 
                            [ Life: Ch25: # 2]

~ Certainty of Truth:
    - "it must admit 
                 the (divine locution)
                whether we like it or not"
                    [ Life: Ch25: #8]


    - "we listen to that 
                 as we do 
            to a person of
                great holiness, 
                learning, or 
                authority, 
         whom we know to be incapable 
                 of uttering a falsehood"

    "...these locutions proceed occasionally 
         -- in such great majesty 
               that, without our recollecting 
                   who it is that utters them, 
               they make us 
                --- tremble 
                       if they be words of reproof, 
                and
                --- die of love 
                       if words of love". 
                         [ Life: Ch25: #9]

      "I felt I could maintain 
            against all the world 
                 that my prayer was
            the work of God". 
                [ Life: Ch25: # 23 ]

~ Rememberance 
     "...our Lord makes the words 
              dwell in the memory 
         so that they cannot be forgotten. 
      ...the divine locution is a work done

      and though some of it 
           may be forgotten, 
      and time have lapsed, 
        yet is not so wholly forgotten
              that the memory loses all traces
              of what was once spoken,
         unless, indeed, after very long time, 
          or 
         unless the locution were words 
                of grace or 
                of instruction. 
         But as to prophetic words,
               they are never forgotten"
                   [ Life: Ch25: #10]
~ Produces Effective Results:
       
   "when our Lord speaks
     - it is, at once, word and work"
                  [ Life: Ch25: #5]
    "His words are deeds"
         [ Life: Ch25: #23]
  "though the words may not be meant 
   to stir up our devotion, 
   but are rather words of reproof,  
  they
     - dispose a soul at once, 
     - strengthen it,
     - make it tender, 
     - give it light, 
     - console and calm it; 
     and if it should be 
            in dryness, or 
            in trouble and uneasiness, 
      - all is removed, 
            as if by the action of a hand, 
         and even better; 
     for it seems as if our Lord 
        would have the soul understand 
     - that He is all-powerful, and 
     - that His words are deeds".
             [ Life: Ch25; #5]
      "and at the first word,  
            change it utterly"
               [ Life: Ch25; #6]
     "in a moment
             -- my soul seemed changed…"
             "in the state I was in then, 
                    many hours would have 
                been necessary 
                    to calm me, and 
                that no one could have done it. 
              Yet I found myself, 
                    through these words alone,
                 tranquil and strong, 
                    courageous and confident, 
                 at rest and enlightened"               
                          [ Life: Ch25: # 23 ]
~ Received supernaturally from God
      without any work 
            of the human faculties
      The soul is passive.
   - "the memory 
           has not the least recollection  
   - (the) expressions
            are uttered so rapidly...
      (Yet are) so full...           
        that much time must have been spent 
                 in arranging them,
           if we formed them ourselves; 
         and so it seems to me
           that we cannot possibly be ignorant 
                 at the time 
           that we have never formed, 
                 ourselves, at all."
                  [ Life: Ch25; #9]
            - "...yet grand sentences, 
               perfectly arranged,                 
                    are uttered..."
     These sentences are beyond the
        capability of the person:
         "sentences...such as the soul in 
                     its most recollected state 
                 never could have formed"

         "when the understanding 
                 and the soul are
          so troubled and distracted 
                 that they cannot form 
          one sentence correctly";  
                  [ Life: Ch25: # 6]
   - May occur after suspension 
        of the faculties:       
          "when the faculties of the soul 
                            are suspended
            ...how should the soul then 
                  comprehend anything, 
               when it remembers nothing? ...
             how can it remember them then,
                  when the memory 
                 can hardly do anything at all, 
               and the imagination is, 
                      as it were, suspended"
                  [ Life: Ch25; #6]


       "but when this instant is passed
          the soul continuing still entranced, 
              then is the time 
         of which I am speaking; 
        for the faculties,
          though not completely suspended, 
        are so disposed"
                 [ Life: Ch25; #7]

~ Occurs when God wills it / grants it;
      not when one desires it:
    - "...with the divine locutions
       for many days 
          I may desire to hear them, 
            and I cannot; and 
       at other times...
        even when I would not hear them,
                   (don't want to hear them )
             I must".
                  [ Life: Ch25; #12]
~ St. Teresa provided 
         an example of a divine locution:
       "In this distress...
             these Thy words alone  
                 were enough to 
                   - remove it, and 
                   - give me perfect peace:

          Be not afraid, my daughter: 
                 it is I; 
  
          and I will not abandon thee. 
                 Fear not."  
                   [ Life: Ch25: # 22]

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2) From where can locutions arise?
      [ Life: Ch25: #1,2,3  ]
St. Teresa stated that locutions can arise 
from:
     - God
     - ourselves and the
     - devil
[ Life: Ch25: #1,2,3  ]
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3). How does St. Teresa describe a
       human or natural  locution?
        [ Life: Ch25: # 3,4,5,6,8,10,11,12  ]
~ Source:
        "they may be 
           - but an apprehension 
                    of the  understanding, 
                for that is possible,
          - or even words which the mind 
                addressed to itself. 
                    [ Life: Ch25; # 3  ]

          - "the understanding 
             which has arranged that locution,  
                   that it is speaking of itself. 
                   This is nothing else 
                        but a word 
                     uttered by one, and
                      listened to by another": 
                          [ Life: Ch25; # 4]
                    "in that case, 
                    the understanding will see 
                      that it has 
                     not only...been listening,
                     but also forming the words"; 
                        [ Life: Ch25; # 4]

~ Indistinct Content / Meaning:
                "the words it forms are
                       something indistinct, 
                       fantastic, and 
                      not clear 
                     like the divine locutions"
                        [ Life: Ch25; # 4]

        "The human locution 
              is as something
          which we cannot well make out, 
              as if we were half asleep"; 
                 [ Life: Ch25; # 6]


~ Resistable:
   "When we wish not to hear anything 
            in this world, 
       we can 
             stop our ears, or 
             give attention to something else:
       so that,
             even if we do hear, 
         at least we can refuse to understand". 
                [ Life: Ch25; # 2]    
            "It is in our power 
                to turn away our attention 
            from these locutions of our own, 
               just as we can be silent 
                    when we are speaking; 
             but, with respect to the former 
                   (locutions from God)
                 that cannot be done"
                    [ Life: Ch25; # 4]

~ Lack of Authenticity:
- "neither does the soul accept it…
       nor does it believe it




           On the contrary, 
            - it is known to be a delusion 
                 of the understanding, and 
             - is therefore put away 
                 as we would put away 
                 the ravings of a lunatic".
                 [ Life: Ch25; #8]

   - St. Teresa stated that only 
      "wickedness" would cause a soul 
          to delude itself regarding the
       authenticity of a locution".
  
       "unless a soul be so wicked 
         as to 
         -- pretend  that it has these locutions 
              which would be a great sin, 
         -- say that it hears divine words
              when it hears nothing of the kind, 
        it cannot possibly fail to see clearly
               that itself 
                      arranges the words, and 
                      utters them to itself"
                        [ Life: Ch25; #11 ]

  - Lack of experience of a divine locution
      can contribute to the delusion though:
        "That seems to me 
            altogether impossible  
         for any soul 
            that has ever known 
                      the Spirit of God. 
          If it has not,  it may 
                continue all its life long 
                     in this delusion, and 
                imagine that it 
                        hears and 
                        understands,
          though I know not how that can be"
                     [ Life: Ch25; #11 ]
~ Ineffectual:
           "The words formed 
                  by the understanding
             effect nothing"
                     [ Life: Ch25; #5]
        "the human locution 
              produces no effect"
                [ Life: Ch25; #8]
 
~ Forgetable
       "Now, that which comes forth 
          from our understanding is...
           the first movement of thought
         which passes away and
          is forgotten"
                [ Life: Ch25; # 10  ]
~ Summonable / Accessible

     -  "...we may hear the locutions 
              that proceed 
              from the understanding 
                     whenever we like, and
           think that we hear them 
                     whenever we pray
                      [ Life: Ch25; #12]
    - "...any one disposed to deceive people 
        by saying that he heard from God 
           that which he has invented himself, 
        might as easily say
         that he heard it with his bodily ears"
            [ Life: Ch25; #12]
~ St. Teresa provides an example:

          "It seems to me 
          that a person commending 
             a matter to God 
          with great love  and earnestness 
              may think that he hears 
           in some way or other 
               whether his prayer will be 
            granted or not,   
            and this is quite possible;
                [ Life: Ch25; # 4  ]
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4).  "There is another test
            more decisive still" for   
           distinguishing between 
          divine locutions and human locutions.
        What does St. Teresa say is this test?
              [ Life: Ch25:  # 5]

 St. Teresa stated that "decisive" test   
   as to whether  a locution is from God
        are  the effects it produces.

"The words formed 
       by the understanding
           effect nothing; 
but, when our Lord speaks, 
    it is at once word and work
          [ Life: Ch25:  # 5]
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5). How does St. Teresa describe a
        locution from satan?
       [ Life: Ch25:  #13,14,15, 17]

~ Without good effects;
      Having bad effects:

   - "not only do not leave 
          any good effects behind, 
   - but do leave evil effects"
           "For though at first 
              the soul is conscious of no harm, 
            great harm may by degrees ensue" 
                [ Life: Ch25:  # 17]
          
          -- "the great aridity 
                     which remains in the soul 
                   after these evil locutions, 
          -- there is also a certain disquiet...
                    
              yet this disquiet is such
               that I know not whence it comes
              only the soul 
                 seems to resist, 
                 is troubled and distressed, 
                      without knowing why; 
                for the words of Satan 
                    are good, 
                 and not evil. 
            I am thinking whether 
                 this may not be so because 
            one spirit is conscious 
                of the presence of another".
                   [ Life: Ch25: # 13  ]


      "After these locutions of the evil one,
          the soul 
                is never gentle, 
          but is,  
                terrified, and greatly disgusted".
                     [ Life: Ch25: # 15]

          
      "all good seems 
            to be lost out of sight, and 
            to have fled from the soul, 
          when the devil has spoken to it; 
           the soul 
           -- is thrown into a state of disgust...
           -- is troubled, 
           -- able to do 
                     no good thing whatever
           -- if it conceives good desires, 
                     they are not strong; 
           -- its humility is 
                   fictitious, 
                   disturbed, and 
                   without sweetness". 
                     [ Life: Ch25: # 17]

~ False sweetness and joy
     - "The sweetness and joy 
          which Satan gives 
                are...of a very different kind"
          (than that of  divine locutions).

         "By means of these sweetnesses 
            he may deceive any one 
             who does not, or 
             who never did, 
                taste of the sweetness of God...

          Those little, fervid bursts of tears, 
           and other slight emotions,
        for at the first breath of persecution 
           these flowers wither…"        
                     [ Life: Ch25:  # 14  ]

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6). What encouragement does 
         St. Teresa give regarding
              locutions from satan?
            [ Life: Ch25:  # 16,24,25,26,27 ]
  St. Teresa assures that it is
     "...a most certain truth, 
           -- that the devil will never deceive 
           -- that God will not suffer him 
                 to deceive,
        the soul 
          which has no confidence 
                whatever in itself
          which is strong in faith, and
          which is resolved to undergo 
                 a thousand deaths 
              for any one article of the creed

          which, in its love of the faith...               
              always labours, 
                         seeking for further light  
                to mould itself 
                on the teaching of the Church…"
                        [ Life: Ch25: # 16]


      "Seeing, then,
          that our Lord is so powerful...                   
          that the evil spirits are His slaves, 
                of which there can be no doubt,  
         because 
             it is of faith, and 
             I a servant of this our Lord...
      What harm can Satan do unto me?      
       I took up the cross in my hand,
           I was changed in a moment 
                  into another person, 
        ...God had really given me
                  courage enough 
            not to be afraid of encountering 
                  all the evil spirits. 
            It seemed to me that I could, 
                  with the cross, 
            easily defeat them altogether".  
                 [ Life: Ch25: # 24]

        "These enemies have not the courage 
               to assail any 
          but those whom they see 
               ready to give in to them,
          or when God permits them to do so,    
               for the greater good 
                     of His servants..."
                  [ Life: Ch25:  # 25]

        (Satan) "...will have nothing to do 
         with those who walk in the truth"
               [ Life: Ch25:  # 26]

    "I do not understand those terrors
       which make us cry out, Satan, Satan! 
    when we may say, God, God
        and make Satan tremble. 
     Do we not know 
         that he cannot stir 
     without the permission of God?" 
            [ Life: Ch25:  # 27]

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7). What recommendations  
         and precautions does 
       St. Teresa give regarding
              locutions from satan?
              [Life: Ch25:#16,17,18,23,24,26]

~ To Pray and Strive as much as can for
    - Faith in God  
       "which, in its love of the faith...               
              always labours, 
                         seeking for further light  
                to mould itself 
                on the teaching of the Church…"
                     [ Life: Ch25: # 16 ]
        "As He strengthens our faith
             love grows".
                    [ Life: Ch25: # 23 ]
    - Humility
        -- Lack of confidence in oneself
           "which has no confidence 
                whatever in itself"
               [ Life: Ch25: # 16]
        -- Look upon oneself as unsafe
           "If the soul does not discern 
              this great strength in itself, and 
            if the particular devotion or vision 
              help it not onwards, 
                   then it must not look upon it 
                      as safe". 
                    [ Life: Ch25: # 17 ]
            "Satan has many devices"
   
            "it is safer to 
             -- be afraid, and 
             -- always on our guard, 
             -- under a learned director, 
                       from whom nothing
                             is concealed.
         If we do this, 
              no harm can befall us..."
                  [ Life: Ch25: # 18]
- Obedience and Adherence  to the
         Church and its Doctrine: 
             "to mould itself on
                the teaching of the Church"
                 [ Life: Ch25: # 16]
        -- Divine locutions would not deviate
                from  Church teaching.
  
             "No imaginable revelations, 
                  not even if it saw 
                           the heavens open 
                  could make that soul swerve 
                           in any degree 
                 from the doctrine of the Church".
                          [ Life: Ch25: # 16]
           "...that which purports 
                 to come from God 
                      is received only in so far
                 as it corresponds 
                     with the sacred writings
           but if it varies therefrom 
                 ever so little,
           I am incomparably more convinced 
                 that it comes from Satan 
           than I am now convinced 
                it comes from God, 
                       however deep 
                       that conviction may be". 
                          [ Life: Ch25:  # 17]
          "...this varying is so clear a sign 
                   of the devil's presence,
               that if all the world 
                   were to assure me 
              that it came from God, 
                   I would not believe it".
                       [ Life: Ch25:  # 17]
        -- St. Teresa stated that such  
                     "first" thoughts and rationale
                  are temptations which
                      should be recognized
                         and confronted at once.
        
             "If, however, 
                  it should at any time find itself 
                      wavering even in thought 
                            on this point, or
                       stopping to say to itself
                           'If God says this to me,
                                 it may be true, 
                        as well as 
                         what He said to the Saints'
                  the soul must not be sure of it".
                           [ Life: Ch25:  # 16]
                    "I do not mean 
                       that it so believes, 
                  only that Satan has taken 
                       the first step 
                           towards tempting it; 
                  and the giving way to the
                    first movements of  a though
                           like this 
                       is evidently most wrong.
                  I believe, however, 
                     that these first movements 
                  will not take place 
                     - if the soul is so strong 
                             in the matter
                       as that soul is
                             to whom our Lord 
                                 sends these graces 
                         that it seems as if 
                              it could crush 
                         the evil spirits 
                     in defence of the very least 
                          of the truths 
                      which the Church holds".
                        [ Life: Ch25:  # 16]
 - Detachment and Self-denial:

        "I aim at nothing else 
                 but His pleasure

            I seek 
                 no joy, 
                 no rest, 
                 no other good than 
                  that of doing His will.  
             ...I had no other desire" 
                  [ Life: Ch25:  # 23]
        
   -- "The evil spirits keep us in terror, 
        because we expose ourselves
               to the assaults of terror 
        by our attachments to 
                  honours,
                  possessions, and 
                  pleasures. 
   -- For then the evil spirits, 
                uniting themselves with us,
         □ we become our own enemies 
                when we love and seek 
                       what we ought to hate,
         □ do us great harm". 
                         [ Life: Ch25:  # 26]
        "We ourselves put weapons 
              into their hands
         that they may assail us; 
               those very weapons 
          with which we should defend 
               ourselves. 

          But if, for the love of God, we
              -  hated all this, and
              - embraced the cross, and 
              - set about His service in earnest, 
            Satan would fly away 
                before such realities,
                as from the plague.      
           if he sees...any one  
               seeking peace in vanities,
                   for all the things of this world 
                        are so utterly vanity...              
  
                he sees at once 
                     that such a one is a child; 
                he treats him as a child, and 
                 ventures to wrestle with him   
                       not once, but often".
                           [ Life: Ch25:  # 26]

         "I took up the cross in my hand,
           I was changed in a moment 
                  into another person, 

           ...God had really given me
               courage enough not to be afraid 
            of encountering all the evil spirits. 
           It seemed to me that I could, 
                with the cross
            easily defeat them altogether". 
                  [ Life: Ch25:  # 24]
- Avoiding sin 
      and the near occasion of sin
      "understand that one venial sin 
         can do us more harm 
             than all hell together; 
         for that is the truth". 
            [ Life: Ch25:  # 26]

       Fear of the Lord
       "fear Him whom we ought to fear"
         [ Life: Ch25:  # 26]
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8).  According to St. Teresa, 
     If God did "subject those 
     who love (Him) to a severe trial,
    why would this be done?
       [ Life: Ch25:  # 22 ]
St. Teresa said:
   "It seems as if 
         Thou didst subject those 
              who love Thee 
        to a severe trial: 
  
    ...in order that they may learn
               in the depths of that trial, 
        the depths of Thy love"
            [ Life: Ch25:  # 22 ]
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