Come, Holy Spirit. Enkindle in our hearts, the fire of Your Divine Love.



Blessed Mother Mary, Queen of Carmel,

protect and pray for us.



Tuesday, October 19, 2010

Discussion of Ch. 27 - The Life of Teresa of Jesus - Autobiography of St. Teresa of Avila



   The Life of Holy Mother
        Teresa of Jesus
  The Life of St. Teresa of Jesus,
of the Order of Our Lady of Carmel.
      Discussion of   CHAPTER 27

- Of another way 
      in which God teaches a soul, 
- and, without speaking, 
      makes His Will known 
      in an admirable manner. 
- She goes on to explain a vision, 
     though not an imaginary one, 
   and a great grace 
     with which God favoured her. 
This chapter is noteworthy.

- The Saint Prays to Be Directed 
     by a Different Way. 
- Intellectual Visions.

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    Topics/ Questions

1).  St. Teresa states that others were    
        concerned regarding her prayer 
        experiences.
  "and many prayers...
          were made on my behalf, 
    that our Lord would lead me 
      by another and  
           a safer way
      for this, they told me, 
           was so suspicious"
How did St. Teresa describe her response 
    to their concerns, as well as, 
     her own concerns?
       [ Life: Ch 27: #1,2,3 ]

2). On "the feast  of the glorious St. Peter...
       I saw Christ close by me".
2a).  How did St. Teresa describe 
           this experience?        
             [ Life: Ch 27: #3,4,5,7,8,12 ]
2b). What was the reaction of St. Teresa
           to this experience?
                [ Life: Ch 27: #3,4 ]

3). How did this feeling 
              of the presence of God 
       differ from that consciousness
              of the presence of God 
          which is frequently felt by those 
              who have attained to the Prayer 
                   of Union and Quiet?
                  [ Life: Ch 27: #6  ]
                 
4).  How does St. Teresa describe the 
         state of the faculties and senses  
          during this "vision"?
              [ Life: Ch 27: # 8,9  ]

5). What did St. Teresa mean 
        when she said,
       "God is not an accepter of persons..."
              [ Life: Ch 27: # 13 ]

6).  St. Teresa talks about detachment.

6a). What does St. Teresa say in regard to:
     one who has received special graces  
        from God?
           [ Life: Ch 27: # 13, 14, 16, 23 ]


6b). What does St. Teresa say in regard to:
         One who has persevered in their
           effort to be detached from  
           possessions, honors, and comforts?
                [ Life: Ch 27: #15]

6c). St Teresa said, "what an excellent 
        likeness  (of Christ and the Apostles)  
        in the person of  that blessed friar, 
              Peter of Alcantara..." 
       What did she say about 
                 St Peter of Alcantra ?
         [ Life: Ch 27: # 16,17,18,19,20,21,22]

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1).  St. Teresa states that others were    
        concerned regarding her prayer 
        experiences.
  "and many prayers...
          were made on my behalf, 
    that our Lord would lead me 
      by another and  
           a safer way
      for this, they told me, 
           was so suspicious"
How did St. Teresa 
      describe her response 
    to their concerns, as well as, 
      her own concerns?
          [ Life: Ch 27: #1,2,3 ]
 St. Teresa said:
-  "I was  praying to God" to be led
       on a safe path.
-  But she didn't have a desire 
       for a different way 
          
                "wished I had a desire 
                           for another way"
                "I was unable really
                              to desire a change,
                          though I always prayed for it"   
  - because she saw the fruits of her prayer:
                "...I saw the progress 
                            I was making" 
                              [ Life: Ch 27: #1 ]
               "I felt that I was wholly changed"
               "I saw that by this way 
                         I was directed heavenwards, 
                 and  that formerly I was going 
                         down to hell.
                 I could not force myself 
                         to desire a change, 
                  nor believe that I was under 
                         the influence of Satan. 
                 Though I was doing all I could 
                       to believe the one and 
                       to desire the other, 
                    it was not in my power to do so"
                            [ Life: Ch 27: #2 ]
  - So, in obedience to God 
     and her Spiritual Directors and Confessors,
       she resigned herself to follow God's will:
        
                 "I could do nothing 
                          but put myself
                     in the hands of God"
                   "He knew what was expedient 
                           for me
                     Let Him do with me 
                           according to His will 
                          in all things".
                           [ Life: Ch 27: #2 ]
                     ...two years  spent in prayer
                            by myself and others... 
                      that our Lord would 
                        either lead me by another way, 
                        or show the truth of this..."
                              [ Life: Ch 27: #3 ]
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2). On "the feast  of the glorious St. Peter...
       I saw Christ close by me".







2a).  How did St. Teresa describe 
           this experience?        
             [ Life: Ch 27: #3,4,5,7,8,12 ]
2b). What was the reaction of St. Teresa
           to this experience?
                [ Life: Ch 27: #3,4 ]



          - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

2a).  How did St. Teresa describe 
           this experience?        
             [ Life: Ch 27: #3,4,5,7,8,12 ]
St. Teresa said:
     "I was in prayer one day, 
         it was the feast 
               of the glorious St. Peter, 
         when I saw  Christ close by me
          or, to speak more correctly, 
                      felt Him
       For I saw 
          nothing  with the eyes of the body,
          nothing with the eyes of the soul. 
       He seemed to me 
            to be close beside me;
      and I saw, too, as I believe, 
           that it was He 
                who was speaking to me. 
       Jesus Christ seemed to be 
         by my side continually, and, 
       as the vision was not imaginary, 
           I saw no form; 
       but I had a most distinct feeling 
           that He was always 
       on my right hand, 
           a witness of all I did; 
       and never at any time, 
             if I was but slightly recollected, 
       or not too much distracted, 
             could I be ignorant 
                  of His near presence". 
                     [ Life: Ch 27: #3 ]
       I did not know how I knew it; 
       but I could not help knowing 
          - that He was close beside me,
          - that I saw Him distinctly, 
             and felt His presence"
                [ Life: Ch 27: #4 ]
       "...I see Him 
              neither with the eyes of the body, 
              nor with those of the soul,    
          because it was not an imaginary vision"
                           [ Life: Ch 27: #5 ]
        "...it was Jesus Christ...
         He often told me so Himself; 
          but, even before He told me so,
          there was an impression 
          on my understanding that it was He; 
          and before this
              He used to tell me so, 
           and I saw Him not".
                    [ Life: Ch 27: #7 ]
          "...God teaches the soul 
                 in another way, and 
            speaks to it without speaking,  
                 [ Life: Ch 27: #7 ]

              "Our Lord impresses 
                   in the innermost soul 
                that which He wills that soul 
                  to understand
                and He manifests it there
                   without images or formal words, 
         
                 ...this way in which God works, 
                     in order that the soul 
                          may understand 
                     what He means 
                   His great truths and mysteries"
                         [ Life: Ch 27: #8 ]
Regarding the effects, she said: 
        - that the recollectedness of my soul 
               was deeper in the prayer of quiet, 
                and more continuous, 

"that when in the Prayer of Quiet
   my soul was now much more
     deeply and continuously recollected" 
      - Peers



"y que el recogimiento 
                del alma 
          era muy mayor,
    en oración de quietud y muy continua..."
     - La Vida de la Madre Teresa de Jesús     
        Ch27: #3

    And that, the concentration /recollection 
                 of the soul 
         was much greater
    in the prayer of quietude 
         and very constant /continuous…"





  - that the effects thereof 
                 were very different from 
              what I had hitherto experienced...
                       [ Life: Ch 27: #4 ]

     -- Knowledge
                 "He renders Himself present 
                       to the soul 
                   by a certain knowledge 
                        of Himself 
                      which is more clear than the sun 
                   I do not mean that we now see 
                        either a sun or any brightness, 
                   only that there is a light not seen,   
                      which illumines 
                             the understanding 
                    so that the soul may have
                             the fruition 
                         of so great a good".
                                [ Life: Ch 27: #5 ]
                   "Our Lord impresses 
                         in the innermost soul 
                      that which He wills that soul 
                         to understand
                     and He manifests it there
                      without images or formal words, 
                     after the manner of the vision 
                        I am speaking of".
                     "this way in which God works, 
                             in order that the soul 
                        may understand 
                                what He means--
                        His great truths and mysteries" 
                            [ Life: Ch 27: #8 ]
                "..this way of understanding, 
                  what it is seems...to be this: 
                     it is our Lord's will in every way 
                        that the soul should have 
                    some knowledge 
                        of what passes in heaven; 

                        ...as the blessed there 
                     understand one another, 
                       without speech 
                     ...our Lord of His goodness 
                           made me see it; 

                      God and the soul understand 
                                one another,  merely 
                       because His Majesty so wills it,
                      without the help of other means,
                                to express the love 
                       there is between them both. 
                       In the same way on earth, 
                            two persons of sound sense, 
                        if they love each other much, 
                            can even, 
                                   without any signs,
                            understand one another 
                                    only by their looks.  
                                    [ Life: Ch 27: #12 ]
     --  "This vision brings with it 
                         great blessings".
                        [ Life: Ch 27: #5 ]
            
          "one of these graces is enough to
             - change it utterly, and 
             - make it love nothing but Him

           Who, without waiting for anything 
                    (the soul) might do, 
            - renders it fit for blessings so high, 
            - communicates to it His secrets, and 
            - treats it 
                 with so much affection and love."
                   [ Life: Ch 27: #11 ]

    -- that it was most certain.
                           [ Life: Ch 27: #4 ]

          "how is it that I can 
              understand and maintain 
            that He stands beside me, and 
              be more certain of it 
            than if I saw Him?"
                  [ Life: Ch 27: #5 ]

          "so clear a knowledge 
              is impressed on the soul 
           that all doubt seems impossible,       
              though He is not seen. 
           Our Lord wills 
              that this knowledge be so graven 
                       on the understanding
           that we can 
              no more question 
                        His presence 
            than we can question 
                that which we see with our eyes...           
             but here,
                  though there may be a suspicion
               in the first instant, 
              there remains a certainty so great
               that the doubt has no force whatever. 
                        [ Life: Ch 27: #7 ]
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2b). What was the reaction of St. Teresa
           to this experience?
                [ Life: Ch 27: #3,4 ]

St. Teresa stated that initially she was 
   fearful at first because she had no 
   experience or knowledge that such a
    "vision" was possible.
    She wept but Our Lord reassured her.
     She also discussed it with her Confessor.

             "As I was utterly ignorant 
                  that such a vision was possible, 
              I was extremely afraid at first,
                  and did nothing but weep; 
               however, when He spoke to me 
                   but one word 
                         to reassure me, 
                   I recovered myself, and was, 
                         as usual, calm and comforted, 
                   without any fear whatever. 
                            [ Life: Ch 27: #3  ]
                "I went at once to my confessor, 
                        in great distress, 
                    to tell him of it".
                         [ Life: Ch 27: #4  ]

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3). How did this feeling 
              of the presence of God 
       differ from that consciousness
              of the presence of God 
          which is frequently felt by those 
              who have attained to the Prayer 
                   of Union and Quiet?
                  [ Life: Ch 27: #6  ]
In the Prayer  of Union and Quiet:
         "God is understood to be present there 
              by the effects He works in the soul
            that is the way His Majesty 
                makes His presence felt; 
           This is a great grace from God; 
              and let him to whom He has given it 
                       esteem it much, 
                 because it is a very high degree 
                        of prayer; 
              but it is not vision"
            In the prayer of union and of quiet
               certain inflowings of the Godhead 
            are present;
                 [ Life: Ch 27: #6  ]
In this "Vision":
         "but here, in this vision
    it is seen clearly 
            that Jesus Christ is present
    the Son of the Virgin"
                but in the vision
    the Sacred Humanity also,
            together with them, 
    is pleased to be our visible companion,
            and to do us good.
               [ Life: Ch 27: #6  ]
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4).  How does St. Teresa describe the 
          faculties and senses  during this "vision"?
              [ Life: Ch 27: # 8,9  ]
St. Teresa said:
       "The vision and the language are matters 
                of such pure spirituality, 
        that there is no toil 
                of the faculties, or 
                of the senses"     
                [ Life: Ch 27: # 8   ]
        "...that we do nothing whatever ourselves
          no work of ours is then possible...
         ...all that is done is apparently 
               the work of our Lord. 
        "It (the vision)  is only
               at intervals, and
               for an instant, 
           that this occurs; 
         for generally, so I think, 
           the senses are not taken away, and 
           the faculties are not suspended: 
          they preserve their ordinary state. 
          It is not always so in contemplation; 
             on the contrary, it is very rarely so"
                       [ Life: Ch 27: # 9 ]
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5). What did St. Teresa mean 
        when she said,
       "God is not an accepter of persons..."
              [ Life: Ch 27: # 13 ]

St. Teresa wrote:
  "Consider, and it is true, 
  that God gives Himself  to those 
       who give up everything for Him.
  "God is not an accepter of persons
            He loves all"
    there is no excuse for any one,
            however wicked he may be, 
    seeing that He hath thus dealt with me,   
            raising me to the state I am in"

  She was explaining that God loves
       everyone without exception or
          preference for some over others.
          If one has sinned, they are still not
              excluded from His love.
          She gives, as an example, herself
              who, despite her own faults, 
                 received great graces from God
               when she returned to prayer and
                 had striven to detach herself
                from worldly affairs and things
                 in order to make room for God
                    and give her attention to Him.
          So, there is no excuse for anyone 
              not to be open to the love of God
                 and seek His presence.
                          [ Life: Ch 27: # 13 ]










  He is not a respecter of persons.
  He loves us all:
    no one, however wicked, 
       can be excluded from His love 
   since He has dealt
      in such a way with me
      and brought me to so high a state.
          - Peers translation

Footnote:
   "accepter" (acetador), 
   but the context suggests a 
        reference to Acts 10: 34.
   (D.V.: "God is not a respecter of persons.")  


Acts 10:  33-35

  "Now, therefore, all we are present 
          in thy sight,  
      to hear all things 
       whatsoever are commanded thee 
          by the Lord.

   And Peter opening his mouth, said:
    'In very deed I perceive,
   that God is not a respecter of persons.
     But in every nation, he 
       that feareth him, and worketh justice, 
     is acceptable to him' ".
















"Mirad que es así cierto,
  que se da Dios a Sí (31) a los
   que todo lo dejan por El.

   No es aceptador de personas; (32)
       a todos ama.

    No tiene nadie excusa por ruin que sea,
     pues así lo hace conmigo trayéndome 
       a tal estado"

Footnotes:
  31 Fray Luis editó: "que se da Dios así"
        (p. 324).
32 Palabra bíblica: 
         Mt 22, 16; 
         Rom 2, 11.
       Citada de nuevo en C. 16, 12.

- "La Vida de la Madre Teresa de Jesús 
       escrita de su misma mano, 
   con una aprobación del P. Maestro 
      Fr. Domingo Báñez
   su confesor y cathedrático de prima 
      en Salamanca".

  "The Life of Mother Teresa of Jesus
      written in her same hand
    with the approval of Fr Domingo Banez,
        her confessor"
          - Ch27 #12

Rom 2:11
"For there is no respect of persons with God."

Mt 22, 16:
Then the Pharisees going, 
       consulted among themselves
how to ensnare him in his speech.
And they sent to him their disciples 
     with the Herodians, saying: 
Master, we know that thou art a true speaker,
and teachest the way of God in truth,
neither carest thou for any man:
for thou dost not regard 
        the person of men.
Tell us therefore what dost thou think,
is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?
But Jesus knowing their wickedness, said:
Why do you tempt me, ye hypocrites?




Blogger's poor  translation:
"Look / Consider  that it is so true 
  that God gives Himself  to those 
       who leave everything for Him.
He is not an  accepter/respecter of persons;
(He is not an excepter -make exceptions
  he does not regard/prefer some over others)

He loves everyone.
No one can have an excuse for ruin
   (to be lost) 
 because of what He did/accomplished  
   in this way with me, 
   in bringing me to this state.








See also   Eph 6:9

"…you have a Master in heaven, 
  and that with  Him
       there is no partiality"
                                                                                         

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6).  St. Teresa talks about detachment.


6a). What does St. Teresa say in regard to:
     one who has received special graces  
        from God?
           [ Life: Ch 27: # 13, 14, 16, 23 ]

6b). What does St. Teresa say in regard to:
         One who has persevered in their
           effort to be detached from  
             possessions, honors, and comforts?
                [ Life: Ch 27: #15]

6c). St Teresa said, "what an excellent 
        likeness  (of Christ and the Apostles)  
        in the person of  that blessed friar, 
              Peter of Alcantara..." 
       What did she say about 
                 St Peter of Alcantra ?
         [ Life: Ch 27: # 16,17,18,19,20,21,22]
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6a). What does St. Teresa say in regard to:
     one who has received special graces  
        from God?
           [ Life: Ch 27: # 13, 14, 16, 23 ]
St. Teresa emphasizes the importance 
      of detachment:
         "May they never accustom themselves,   
              after looking on Thee,
            to look upon vile things again! 
            and may they have pleasure in nothing 
                     but in Thee, O Lord! 
            Oh, ingratitude of men, 
                  how far will it go!"
  
             "what can you be in search of 
                     even in this life, 
               let alone that which is for ever, 
               that is comparable to the least 
                     of these graces?"
               "God gives Himself  to those 
                   who give up everything for Him.
               "The joy of  (His graces)  is 
                    so far above all conceivable joys, 
                 that it may well make us loathe 
                    all the joys of earth; 
                  for they are all but dross; 
                    and it is an odious thing 
                to make them enter 
                    into the comparison, 
               even if we might have them for ever"
                       [ Life: Ch 27: #13 ]

               "Why do we seek 
                     blessings and joys so great, 
                 bliss without end, and
                     all at the cost of our good Jesus? 

              Is it by pleasure and idle amusements  
                   that we can attain to the fruition 
              of what He purchased 
                   with so much blood?         
              Can we think that we can, 
                  by preserving our honour, 
              which is vanity, 
                  recompense Him
               for the sufferings He endured,
                  that we might reign with Him 
                       for ever?
   
           we are going by the wrong road utterly,
                 and we shall never arrive there". 
                       [ Life: Ch 27: # 14 ]
            "we should have before us 
                   some likeness of that 
               which our Lord 
                   and His Apostles endured"    
                        [ Life: Ch 27: # 16 ]

              "But how I have been talking 
                    in order to stir you up 
                never to esteem anything 
                    in this life!
                         [ Life: Ch 27: # 23 ]
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6b). What does St. Teresa say in regard to:
         One who has persevered in their
           effort to be detached from  
             possessions, honors, and comforts?
                [ Life: Ch 27: #15]

       "what will be 
              the accidental glory and 
              the joy of the blessed
       who have entered on it, 
            when they see that,
                though they were late, 
              yet they left nothing 
                which it was possible for them 
                      to do for God, 
       who kept nothing back 
                      they could give Him, and 
       who gave what they gave 
                      in every way they could, 
               according to 
                      their strength and 
                      their measure,
               they who had more
                      gave more. 
        How rich will he be 
         who gave up all his riches for Christ! 
          How honourable will he be 
              who, for His sake, 
          sought no honours whatever, 
               but rather took pleasure 
          in seeing himself abased! 
         How wise he will be 
               who rejoiced when men 
          accounted him as mad!--
                they did so of Wisdom Itself! 

          ...whom people regarded as mad,  
                 because they saw them 
          perform heroic acts, 
                 as true lovers of Christ."
                    [ Life: Ch 27: # 15 ]
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6c). St Teresa said, "what an excellent 
        likeness  (of Christ and the Apostles)  
        in the person of  that blessed friar, 
              Peter of Alcantara..." 
       What did she say about 
                 St Peter of Alcantra ?
         [ Life: Ch 27: # 16,17,18,19,20,21,22]
St. Teresa said: 
"...we should have before us 
   some likeness of that 
      which our Lord 
       and His Apostles endured; 
   for we have need of it now 
       more than ever.
           [ Life: Ch 27: # 16 ]
   And what an excellent likeness 
     in the person of that blessed friar,
        Peter of Alcantara...
       
    he had a spirit strong...  
       and so he trampled on the world
  How great was the courage 
    with which His Majesty 
      filled the Saint I am speaking of! 
He did penance...
  for seven-and-forty years 
      [ Life: Ch 27: # 17 ]
  it was our Lord's will 
  that he should 
       undertake my defense, and
       encourage me, at a time 
           when I was in great straits, 
              
   He told me, I think, 
    that for forty years 
       he slept but an hour and a half 
           out of the twenty-four, and 
    that the most laborious penance 
       he underwent, when he began, 
           was this of overcoming sleep.
For that purpose, he was always 
    either kneeling or standing. 
    When he slept,
          he sat down, 
     his head resting against a piece 
          of wood driven into the wall.
     Lie down he could not,
          if he wished it; 
       for his cell, 
              as every one knows,
         was only four feet and a half 
              in length. 
In all these years, 
   he never covered his head 
       with his hood, 
  even when the sun was hottest, 
       or the rain heaviest. 
He never covered his feet: 
the only garment he wore 
     was made of sackcloth, and
  that was as tight as it could be, 
     with nothing between it and his flesh; 
  over this, he wore a cloak 
       of the same stuff.
He told me 
  that, in the severe cold, 
     he used to 
         take off his cloak, and 
         open the door and the window 
              of his cell, 
     in order that when he put 
          his cloak on again, 
     after shutting 
          the door and the window, 
      he might give some satisfaction 
          to his body 
      in the pleasure it might have 
          in the increased warmth. 
His ordinary practice was to eat 
     but once in three days. 
He said to me, 
  "Why are you astonished at it? 
it is very possible for any one 
    who is used to it." 
One of his companions told me 
  that he would be occasionally 
    eight days without eating: 
    that must have been 
        when he was in prayer; 
    for he was subject 
         to trances, and 
         to the impetuosities 
                of the love of God, 
           of which I was once 
                 a witness myself.
              [ Life: Ch 27: #18]
  His poverty was extreme; 
       and his mortification, 
      from his youth...       
      With all his sanctity, 
          he was very agreeable;
       though his words were few, 
       unless when he was asked questions;
          he was very pleasant to speak to, 
     for he had a most clear understanding.
              [ Life: Ch 27: # 19 ]
   that his last end was like his life  
           preaching to, and 
           exhorting, 
        his brethren. 
When he saw that the end was comes 
    he repeated the Psalm,  
       "Laetatus sum in his quae
           dicta sunt mihi;" 
     [ ‘I rejoiced with those who said to me”
      and Psalm 122 continues
      “Let us go into the house of the Lord’.]
    and then, kneeling down, 
        he died.
          [ Life: Ch 27: # 20 ]
     Since then, it has pleased our Lord 
     that I should find more help 
          from him than during his life. 
     He advises me in many matters. 
     I have often seen him in great glory. 
     The first time he appeared to me, 
          he said: 
      "O blessed penance, 
       which has merited so great a reward!"   
            [ Life: Ch 27: # 21 ]
        Behold here, then, 
             how that life of sharp penance 
        is perfected in such great glory: 
        and now he is a greater comfort to me...
             than he was on earth. 
        Our Lord said to me on one occasion,
           that persons could not ask Him 
                anything in his name, 
                (in St. Peter of Alcantara's name)
           and He not hear them.  
            I have recommended many things 
                       to him 
             that he was to ask of our Lord, 
            and I have seen my petitions granted. 
                [ Life: Ch 27: # 22 ]












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